Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

02/09/2005 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SB 75 PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTERS/EMERGENCIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 75(HES) Out of Committee
*+ SB 73 STATE VIROLOGY LABORATORY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 73(HES) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 84 CHILD PROTECTION CONFIDENTIALITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 84(HES) Out of Committee
+= SB 51 PUBLIC ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 51 Out of Committee
                                                                                                                                
           SB 75-PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTERS/EMERGENCIES                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR FRED DYSON announced SB 75 to be up for consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR.  RICHARD  MANDSAGER,  Director, Division  of  Public  Health,                                                               
Department of Health  & Social Services (DHSS),  proceeded with a                                                               
20-minute  slide  presentation  focusing  on  the  public  health                                                               
system.  He relayed  a quote  from "The  Institute of  Medicine,"                                                               
which  says,  "Public   health  is  what  we  as   a  society  do                                                               
collectively to assure  that the conditions in  which people live                                                               
can be healthy."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He  said there  are  many partners  in public  health  and SB  75                                                               
focuses on  the governmental part  of the public health  system -                                                               
sewage removal and  treatment, safe water, clean  air, removal of                                                               
lead from gasoline.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER emphasized  that public health is  not health care,                                                               
but  rather  it  focuses  on   populations  and  prevention,  not                                                               
treatment.  It focuses  on testing  kids  for TB  in schools  and                                                               
injury  prevention  projects  like  on  how  to  prevent  logging                                                               
accidents.  He gave  another  example from  last  year, when  the                                                               
department addressed  cruise ship  sickness, which turned  out to                                                               
be caused  by oysters  from Kachemak Bay.  Public health  work is                                                               
involved  in places  you don't  expect it  and problems  can't be                                                               
predicted from year to year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  said that  SB 75  supports the  work the  Division of  Public                                                               
Health does and addresses  its underpinning statutory weaknesses.                                                               
He said  the department  is very dependent  on federal  funds for                                                               
preparedness  work, which  started being  redirected last  summer                                                               
and he thought it would probably continue going that way.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:43:25 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. MANDSAGER said  that tuberculosis still exists  in Alaska and                                                               
work  will always  have to  be  done to  minimize outbreaks.  The                                                               
public  health world  is  now worried  about  SARS mutating  into                                                               
human-to-human transmission as three  cases have been documented.                                                               
It  attacks young  adults and  healthy people.  For the  last two                                                               
years  the  mortality  rate  has  been  70  percent.  Traditional                                                               
disease control generally involves  isolation and the state would                                                               
have to quarantine people if that  were to happen in the next few                                                               
years.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Bringing current  law that  is based  on 1949  statues containing                                                               
the  basic public  health framework  up to  date in  SB 75  would                                                               
allow the division to address  current issues like what different                                                               
cultures expect in  terms of health care  and present-day chronic                                                               
disease  outbreaks. Further  he  said that  current law  contains                                                               
nothing about due process. He said:                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     In my  view this bill is  all about trying to  find the                                                                    
     right balance between the  mission of protecting public                                                                    
     health and an individual's right  to due process in the                                                                    
     case they think government has overreached....                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:46:41 PM                                                                                                                    
DR. MANDSAGER explained that the  definition of "essential public                                                               
health services" is based on  the nationally accepted definitions                                                               
from the U.S.  Public Health Functions Task Force  and is further                                                               
based  on two  reports  published in  the last  15  years by  the                                                               
Institute of Medicine.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He  related  an  example  of  blood surveys  for  lead  dust  the                                                               
department did  10 years  ago in the  communities around  the Red                                                               
Dog  Mine. When  the department  went back  this fall  and tested                                                               
people again,  it found no  evidence of lead absorption.  He also                                                               
noted on-going concerns about asbestos in the gravel at Ambler.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:49:39 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  MANDSAGER continued  reviewing his  slide presentation.  The                                                               
meat of the  bill is in section 8, the  quarantine, isolation and                                                               
medical  treatment section.  Only  one state  in country  doesn't                                                               
have adequate statutory authority to  quarantine in response to a                                                               
bio-terrorism  attack scenario  and that  is Alaska.  Because the                                                               
department  has authority  for two  diseases only,  if small  pox                                                               
showed up, he  would have to persuade a judge  that their general                                                               
governmental   authorities  are   broad   enough   for  them   to                                                               
immediately isolate that patient.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:52:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELTON asked why section  3 deletes annual TB screening in                                                               
public  schools because  he just  mentioned that  TB is  still an                                                               
issue in Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MANDSAGER   replied  that  the  cost   benefit  analysis  of                                                               
screening  rules   doesn't  justify   annual  testing   of  every                                                               
schoolteacher  and child  in the  State  of Alaska.  He said  the                                                               
department has been  working on this issue on  a regulatory basis                                                               
and this section updates the statute to reflect that.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:54:28 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELTON asked if it reduces the cost to districts.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON  asked if  he could  still do  what was  necessary by                                                               
regulation.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied yes.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON asked  him to describe the  interaction between the                                                               
Center  for   Disease  Control  (CDC)   and  the   Public  Health                                                               
Department in the case of a disease outbreak.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER  replied that the  arrangement is  complicated, but                                                               
works well  because Alaska  has a small  population. The  CDC has                                                               
authority on  cruise ships  until they  dock. His  division takes                                                               
over  on  land.  He  said  the federal  government  is  going  to                                                               
establish  a special  quarantine  office in  Washington, D.C.  to                                                               
deal  with quarantine  authority for  disease outbreaks.  Because                                                               
the communications  between involved  people are good  in Alaska,                                                               
dealing with the cruise ship industry has worked well so far.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:56:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  OLSON asked  if it  is possible  to quarantine  a cruise                                                               
ship without it docking.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MANDSAGER  replied  yes  and   in  that  case  the  CDC  has                                                               
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  asked if the  CDC has any problems  working within                                                               
the Alaskan constitution.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied that he didn't see any.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  asked if it would  be more advantageous for  a new                                                               
lab to be  built in a more central location  than Fairbanks since                                                               
most aircraft heads toward Anchorage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied that that question  gets to the core of the                                                               
next  bill up  for consideration  [SB  73] and  the debate  about                                                               
sample processing  is important.  Some testing for  human viruses                                                               
can get to Fairbanks fast  enough to diagnose quickly. That could                                                               
be a problem if there  weren't many flights between Anchorage and                                                               
Fairbanks daily.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON said  that time is of the essence  in a rabies case                                                               
in Dutch Harbor.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied that the  biggest risk from Dutch Harbor is                                                               
getting  to Anchorage,  not to  Fairbanks. The  biggest issue  is                                                               
getting the sample from anywhere in  rural Alaska to a hub in the                                                               
first  place.  He said  the  Governor's  office had  prepared  an                                                               
amendment that the Department of Law and the Office of Public                                                                   
Advocacy had agreeable on.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved to adopt Amendment 1 that was prepared by                                                                  
Dr. Mandsager as follows:                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 1                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     TO: SB 75                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page  13, line  28: Delete  all material  following "g"                                                                    
     through page 13, line 31                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 14, line 1: Delete  "the office of public advocacy                                                                    
     to provide a guardian ad litem for the individual."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 17,  following line  14: Insert:  "Sec. 18.15.389.                                                                    
     Representation;  guardian ad  litem. An  individual who                                                                    
     is   the    respondent   in   proceedings    under   AS                                                                    
     18.,15.375(e)  or   18.15.385  has  the  right   to  be                                                                    
     represented  by  counsel  in the  proceedings.  If  the                                                                    
     individual cannot  afford an attorney, the  court shall                                                                    
     direct  the  public  defender   agency  to  provide  an                                                                    
     attorney.  The court  may, on  its own  motion or  upon                                                                    
     request  of  the  individual's  attorney  or  a  party,                                                                    
     direct  the  office of  public  advocacy  to provide  a                                                                    
     guardian ad litem for the individual."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There were no objections and Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:02:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELTON moved to adopt Amendment 2.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                          AMENDMENT 2                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     TO: SB 75                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line  17: After (4) the  transportation of dead                                                                    
     bodies, insert  "except that  the commissioner  may not                                                                    
     require that  a dead body  be embalmed unless  the body                                                                    
     is known to carry  a communicable disease or embalmment                                                                    
     is otherwise required for the  protection of the public                                                                    
     health or for compliance with federal law;"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN objected for discussion purposes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON explained  that Amendment  2 was  prepared due  to                                                               
another  bill he  co-sponsored with  the  chairman that  provides                                                               
that  transportation  of dead  bodies  doesn't  require a  waiver                                                               
process.  Families of  members of  some faiths  don't believe  in                                                               
embalming and  want bodies  buried in  the Holy  Land or  next to                                                               
relatives in other states that  require embalming before they can                                                               
be  shipped out.  Currently  waivers have  been  issued in  these                                                               
circumstances,  but  that  is  not   in  statute.  The  amendment                                                               
provides  that the  bodies can  be transferred  unembalmed unless                                                               
there is  a public  health risk.   Adopting this  amendment means                                                               
they would not have to take up the separate bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:04:44 PM                                                                                                                    
DR.  MANDSAGER  said  he  had no  objection  to  Senator  Elton's                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON said  he understood that bodies are  sealed and there                                                               
are no public health issues by not embalming them.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER  added that  dry ice  is available  today in  a way                                                               
that it wasn't when the statute was written several decades ago.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN remarked  that a member of the other  body ran into                                                               
problems in transporting a body  across state lines and asked how                                                               
transportation could be assured.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR.  MANDSAGER  replied  that  federal  law  covers  jurisdiction                                                               
across state  lines and  this clause  would be  okay. He  had not                                                               
done a thorough  study of how this would interact  with all other                                                               
states' statutes, however.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN noted that there was no fiscal note.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:06:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR ELTON added  that SB 39 on this same  issue had no fiscal                                                               
note either.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR OLSON  asked if any  disease had  ever been spread  by an                                                               
unembalmed body.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER replied that he was not aware of any.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON noted there were  no further objections and Amendment                                                               
2 was adopted.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:08:29 PM                                                                                                                    
NATHAN JOHNSON, Division  Manager, Anchorage Municipal Department                                                               
of  Health and  Social Services,  supported  SB 75.  He said  the                                                               
state  statutes are  antiquated and  it is  imperative to  update                                                               
them  for  bioterrorism,  avian  flu  and  the  entire  scope  of                                                               
present-day public health concerns.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:10:34 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD  BEATTY,  President,  Alaska   State  Hospital  Nursing  Home                                                               
Association (ASHNHA) supported  SB 75 and the fact  that it takes                                                               
care  of  public  health  before  anything  serious  happens.  He                                                               
especially  praised spelling  out  privacy  issues surrounding  a                                                               
public health emergency.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:12:00 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  DYSON  asked  Dr.  Mandsager   to  explain  the  religious                                                               
treatment of tuberculosis that is repealed in section 12.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
DR. MANDSAGER  deferred to Dan Branch,  Senior Assistant Attorney                                                               
General Department of Law, who  explained that SB 75 upgrades the                                                               
chapter that  currently deals  with tuberculosis  and it  was not                                                               
the  intent  to  implicate   religious  beliefs  with  quarantine                                                               
isolation testing.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GREEN moved  to pass  CSSB 75(HES)  from committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  fiscal   note.  There  were  no                                                               
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               

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